Solid NO on P and O!

15 Feb
Annual Downtown Business District Improvement Report

9 Responses to “Solid NO on P and O!”

  1. rlberrylaw's avatar
    rlberrylaw February 20, 2024 at 10:31 am #

    Hi Juanita,

    I get that you don’t like the City Council, and your points about downtown have merit. But your position on VE is weak, and your misunderstanding is made clear in the second paragraph.

    Why would they need to amend the General Plan? Because the General Plan is “general.” Anytime they adopt a Specific Plan, the planning area is no longer “general” and becomes “specific.” The General plan is amended to reflect this evolution in the planning process. It is routine.

    It is misleading to imply that it is some kind of “cheat” that selfish realtors are imposing on an innocent and ignorant public. I believe you have higher standards for truth.

    • Juanita Sumner's avatar
      Juanita Sumner February 20, 2024 at 4:17 pm #

      “The General plan is amended to reflect this evolution in the planning process. It is routine.”

      Yes, amendments have become way too routine Mr. B. The public has spent years and a lot of staff $$$ making this “plan”, and every time we turn around the city is giving somebody a variance to the code, or letting a developer write a “parallel” code or yeah, amending the “plan” to fit some developer’s needs. Valley’s Edge is on the ballot because the public is allowed to approve amendments to the GP, or not.

      As for that last catty crack, you are putting words in my mouth, I never said “cheat” or implied the public is “innocent” or “ignorant” I’m not misleading anybody. It’s only obvious this thing will be a feeding frenzy for realtors. As Edith Ann would say, “That’s the truth…(insert raspberry here)”

      • rlberrylaw's avatar
        rlberrylaw February 20, 2024 at 8:32 pm #

        By routine, I didn’t mean that “cheating” has become routine, but I think you know that and are speaking rhetorically. What I mean is that the general plan is design to be amended to substitute a specific plan for the previous “general plan.” That is why it is common. When an area is undeveloped, it appears as a general plan that includes zoning. When it is developed or a more specific plan is approved, that automatically “amends” the general plan. It is not a bug, but a feature, your implications to the contrary notwithstanding.

      • Juanita Sumner's avatar
        Juanita Sumner February 21, 2024 at 1:48 am #

        And the public has the right to reject poor planning, and I hope they do. Rob, stop putting words and “implications” in my mouth. You need to stick to arguing with what I say instead of putting an argument out there for yourself to argue with.

  2. rlberrylaw's avatar
    rlberrylaw February 20, 2024 at 8:37 pm #

    As to your “cheating” comment. Yes, that is my word not yours, but your meaning of “taking advantage” is clear. Your last comment about “feeding frenzy” makes my point. You disparage an entire industry as if they are doing something wrong or harmful. Do you object to real estate brokers in general? If not, what houses are they allowed to sell without offending you?

    Raspberry back at you!

    • Juanita Sumner's avatar
      Juanita Sumner February 21, 2024 at 1:46 am #

      I’m sorry, you’re just baiting, when you want to get back to the conversation at hand, let me know.

    • Juanita Sumner's avatar
      Juanita Sumner February 21, 2024 at 6:34 am #

      Well, I went to your shitstack and read what you wrote about the Valley’s Edge opponents – “I think they hate humans and view human activity as evil.” 

      But you say I hate realtors as a class over one true observation that I made, having twisted and distorted it. You admitted to putting words in my mouth.

      Then I read that crap about your daughter and your treasure box, and I realized, you are one bitter lonely old man Rob. You hate the Tchudi’s because they have friends and a nice lifestyle. You just hate the opponents of VE because they aren’t like you, they don’t agree with you, and they have stuff you will never have.

      My suggestion is go home, get a new dog, and mind your own fucking business.

       

      • rlberrylaw's avatar
        rlberrylaw February 21, 2024 at 9:23 am #

        Nice talking to you, if it can be called that.

        Rob

      • Juanita Sumner's avatar
        Juanita Sumner February 22, 2024 at 6:08 am #

        wow, you are a real piece of work. You come to MY blog trying to tell me I don’t know anything, trying to bully me into shutting up, put words in my mouth, try to change the subject – look Rob, not everybody agrees with you. When I disagreed with you on your blog you invited me to leave, so I left, I haven’t been back. Bored? Come here looking for a fight? You certainly didn’t come here looking to “talk”, Old Man. So I’ll handle you like I handle the old pit bull that wanders down my street looking to shit in people’s yards – GO HOME.

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