Will California voters overturn the bag ban? Maybe this issue will piss people off enough to raise voter participation in 2016

15 Jun

From Ballotpedia:

The California Plastic Bag Ban Referendum is on the November 8, 2016 ballot in California as a veto referendum. If the measure approved by the state’s voters, it would:[1][2]

  • Ratify SB 270 (2014).
  • Prohibit large grocery stores and pharmacies from providing plastic single-use carryout bags on July 1, 2015, and small grocery stores, convenience and liquor stores on July 1, 2016.
  • Allows single-use plastic bags for meat, bread, produce, bulk food and perishable items.
  • Mandate stores to charge $0.10 for recycled, compostable, and reusable grocery bags.
  • Exempt consumers using a payment card or voucher issued by the California Special Supplemental Food Program, a public assistance program, from being charged for bags.
  • Provide $2 million to state plastic bag manufacturers for the purpose of helping them retain jobs and transition to making thicker, multi-use, recycled plastic bags.

The American Progressive Bag Alliance is leading the campaign to repeal SB 270.[3]

This measure is a veto referendum; this means that a “yes” vote would be a vote to uphold or ratify the contested legislation – Senate Bill 270 – that was enacted by the California State Legislature, while a “no” vote is a vote to overturn Senate Bill 270.

Read more here:

http://ballotpedia.org/California_Plastic_Bag_Ban_Referendum_(2016)

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10 Responses to “Will California voters overturn the bag ban? Maybe this issue will piss people off enough to raise voter participation in 2016”

  1. bob June 19, 2015 at 8:05 pm #

    If you can believe the polls it’s unlikely the voters will repeal the ban. But that’s not a surprise. The voters in this state are idiots. They had a chance to postpone AB32 and voted against that. And now they wonder why they have the highest utility rates and gas prices in the nation.

    And you’d better hope for a low voter turnout. A high voter turnout in this states means more DemoNcrats voting for more nanny state laws and higher taxes and more spending.

  2. bob June 19, 2015 at 8:15 pm #

    I saw your letter in the Snooze and Review about Covered Colliefornia (as Ahnode calls it).

    Remember the Snooze telling us how wonderful Obammie Care would be? They even had a bunch of guest editorials singing its praises.

    What a freaking joke. How can Melissa Daugtree not see that it is just welfare for the corrupt insurance companies and medical industry that have the politicians in their back pocket?

    I guess we gotta give Melissa some money so she can do some of that investigative reporting to figure it out.

    • Juanita Sumner June 20, 2015 at 4:48 am #

      And she just has to edit – she trimmed my letter, for absolutely no reason other than she has to have her thumb in your ass if you want ink in her rag.

  3. bob June 20, 2015 at 11:08 am #

    I always used the paper and plastic bags for carrying out my groceries and for disposing of garbage and other things. The ones I didn’t use I put in the recycle bin where I live and plus the stores have bins you can put them in. It is idiotic and unfair to outlaw plastic bags and mandate retailers charge for paper bags (unless you’re on welfare then of course you get them free).

    Since the so-called conservatives on the city council are really just like the nanny state liberals on so many issues and are definitely not going to repeal this law and since the voters of the state are idiots and will not repeal the ban I went ahead and ordered a thousand plastic bags. Once the city passed the ordinance I no longer recycled the plastic and paper bags but stock piled them and now I am almost out.

    You can get a thousand on ebay for 20.50 and free shipping.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/121246347652

    This makes the most sense. I am not going to buy cloth bags for groceries and then buy plastic bags for garbage and other things. And there is no way I will ever buy a bag from the rent seeking, slave labor employing Chico Bag and I will not buy bags from the stores, no matter what Schwabie, Meiliss Dogtree and the rest of those rapscallions try to force down my throat.

    • Juanita Sumner June 20, 2015 at 3:16 pm #

      I hear that, I used the damned things. It really irritated me they could get away with that “single-use” crap. No, Glad trash bags are “single use”, and they look just as bad hanging from a tree along Hwy 99 as a Safeway bag.

      I have a small stockpile of very clean plastic shopping bags in my kitchen drawer, I use them for various cooking projects. I tent one over my bread dough when it’s rising, and I cover my yogurt pot with one to keep the heat in, stuff like that.

      But, my son has been going to college in a small Southern California town where they do not have a ban, so he saved his grocery bags for us, we keep those in the garage for trash and other sanitary purposes. Badges killed a big rat right before trash day, that took three bags.

      I got a new kitchen trash can last year, under the sink model, and the produce bags actually fit better than the shopping bags, so I always make sure to bag my produce good.

      But I’m afraid you’re right, I’m afraid this ban is here to stay. Sorensen and his team are a bunch of RINO’s, they want the ban because it makes us look trendy and civilized, they want that.

      • bob June 20, 2015 at 5:04 pm #

        “…the produce bags actually fit better than the shopping bags, so I always make sure to bag my produce good.”

        Just give them a couple of years and they will outlaw them, too. But by then it won’t make any difference because with AB32 and additional taxes the DemoNcrats want to pile on gasoline we won’t be able to afford to go to the store.

        And you are right about the so-called conservatives on this city council. In reality they are just as much control freaks as Schwabbie’s group.

        And you write to these conservatives about the ban and politely tell them your views and ask them to consider repealing the ban like Huntington Beach did and they just blow BS right back at you. When you ask for specifics they have nothing to say. Unless you’re Renault, of course, then you don’t even bother replying to any correspondence. (I can’t help but call her Renault. A friend of mine who is now dead had a Renault and it was a lemon.)

        DemoNcrat or RepublowCon, they are just different wings of the same corrupt bird of prey.

      • bob June 20, 2015 at 5:42 pm #

        I really should not be surprised by the so-called conservatives on the city council. After all, every one of them is either a public trough feeder or a rent seeker and that applies to the rest of the council as well.

  4. bob June 20, 2015 at 5:16 pm #

    I have read AB32 is costing us ten extra cents a gallon for gas right now. It’s also costing us for our electricity and natural gas but it’s hard to pin down the exact amount.

    The thing is that EVERY YEAR this cost will go up. It is like an automatic yearly tax increase to producers and consumers of power. And that is on top of, not in lieu of, all the other taxes on gas and power.

    And on top of that DemoNcrats are proposing more tax increases on gasoline. Darrel Stinkbug, who used to run the Senate said he wanted consumers to feel pain at the pump.

    But yet the voters of this state are so stupid they keep electing these crooks who are destroying the economy and our standard of living. Like I’ve said before, it’s like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders.

  5. bob June 20, 2015 at 7:39 pm #

    I remember when the petitioners were gathering signatures to repeal the ban. I was at FoodMax and signed the petition. This was last year before the city ban went into effect.

    There were these idiots walking out of the store with the FoodMax plastic bags they were getting for free and they refused to sign the petition. One guy told the peititioner to F himself. Are these people just stupid or hypocrits or both?

    • Juanita Sumner June 21, 2015 at 5:33 am #

      Well, there you have the question that has been plaguing my brain: Are these people just stupid or hypocrites or both?

      Cronkite said Americans are too ignorant to vote. In 2005 he said our democracy was in trouble, I think it’s DEAD. I hate to sound like an old fuddy-duddy, but people just don’t take voting seriously anymore. And I’ve talked to too many people who’ve given up and don’t vote at all.

      Oh well, here at Chico Taxpayers Association, we’re stacking our bb’s for 2016, waiting to see the whites of their eyes. Hold steady Bob, hoooooold steady…

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