Before you get all excited about the Grants Pass decision, you have to ask yourself – where will they put these people when they arrest them for having nowhere to go? The jail remodel has still not happened, and the county says they need about $4.5 million to complete it.

29 Jun
Here’s the most recent news I’ve heard about the jail expansion, from September 2023.

https://www.buttecounty.net/256/Fees

This is the most recent article I could find regarding jail fees.

4 Responses to “Before you get all excited about the Grants Pass decision, you have to ask yourself – where will they put these people when they arrest them for having nowhere to go? The jail remodel has still not happened, and the county says they need about $4.5 million to complete it.”

  1. charleswithuhn's avatar
    charleswithuhn June 30, 2024 at 6:28 am #

    “The [recent Supreme Court on Grants Pass] ruling epitomizes why housing [and safe shelter] has become a crisis in so much of the country: It does nothing to make communities confront their role in causing a housing shortage, and it upholds their ability to inflict pain upon that shortage’s victims.”

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/06/martin-v-boise-supreme-court-ruling-grants-pass-oregon/678834/

    • Juanita Sumner's avatar
      Juanita Sumner July 2, 2024 at 10:22 am #

      I don’t agree that illegal camping is caused by a housing shortage. There are shelter beds at both the Torres Shelter and pallet shelter, just to name two of the numerous county and city agencies that are funded and set up to handle the unhoused population. And, as we speak, Chico is going through one of the biggest development benders since the early 2000’s – I just drove past one new subdivision and another three-story apartment building in the works, both on East Avenue, that were not there when I drove by within the last year. Look at Bruce Road and Hwy 32, it’s like mushrooms. So we have housing for a wide variety of people.

      I don’t mean to be argumentative or cruel, but people who willfully camp on public land that is not designated legal campground are breaking the law. Leaving garbage not in trash cans is against the law. Public intoxication/drug use is against the law. Public defecation and urination are against the law. Destroying vegetation, camp fires, vandalizing fixtures – against the law. Most of those will only get you fined, as long as you agree to cease and desist – but disobeying an officer of the law will get you arrested, as it should. Anybody who doesn’t respect a cop is dangerous around other people, including other unhoused and vulnerable individuals. These people need to be taken off the streets, for public safety, and answer for their offenses like everybody else. In this case, jail is “housing”.

      My problem with the court ruling is that it would lead to fines these people can’t pay, and arrests – as Dave predicts – that would mean a round-trip to Oroville and back to the camps. Those people need to be taken out of the equation, so we can deal with the rest of the unhoused who truly deserve our consideration but we need a decent jail to put them in. Dave also mentions the backlog at the DA’s office that has people who can’t get out on bail in jail for months waiting for trial.

      So I think the jail should be a bigger part of this conversation.

      My husband would like to add, that the “homeless” are as bad as the cops. They’re less than a percentage of our population but they get a disproportionate chunk of the budget. It’s not fair to law-abiding citizens, 99.5% of the public, are left to watch this shit show.

  2. Dave Waddell's avatar
    Dave Waddell June 30, 2024 at 9:18 pm #

    “Where will they put these people when they arrest them for having nowhere to go?” Great question, thank you! Drive them to Oroville, book them, and release them there? Great use of police time. Going to take them to court? Ramsey has already clogged the court calendar with frivolous cases that he eventually drops because there’s zero evidence. Whack-a-mole works long enough for City to take a PR picture, but then, months later, THEY’RE BACK. …

    • Juanita Sumner's avatar
      Juanita Sumner July 2, 2024 at 10:42 am #

      thanks Dave, that’s my point, it’s just a joke. We really need to talk publicly about the way Butte County spends it’s money, especially given this new sales tax measure.

      I’ve watched people’s names on the court case register, they spend months waiting around the jail, having been coerced into waving the right to speedy trial, then coerced into waving the jury, just to be eventually sent to state prison, or released, time served. Others are released much more quickly, to be arrested again and again. How this all works, is a mystery stew. It just sounds like the crazy people are running the asylum.

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